Remove Commercials Only - Windows 8 x64 - Missing Codecs?

Jan 24 at 2:24 PM

I am interested in removing commercials only and keeping files in WTV format.  I have a single conversion task set up to use WTV uncompressed.  On Windows 8 x64 it results in an unplayable file. Media Center gives a codec error.  If I run the same process on a Windows 7 x64 computer it works fine.  During the install on the Win 8 box I was prompted to install Hali and FFDShow even though I can play MKV fine using Shark007 codecs.  Any idea what is preventing me from removing commercials in Windows 8 or why it thinks I can't play MKV?  Thanks in advance for any insights.

Coordinator
Jan 24 at 3:18 PM
Edited Jan 24 at 5:32 PM

am wondering if the shark codecs are interfering with the Win 8 playback. Unfortunatley I don't have a Win8 to computer it on.

 

I can only request another user with Win 8 to use the WTV profile and see if it works.

 

Also, do you have the same results with the WTV profiles? (not hte unprocessed)

Jan 26 at 5:08 AM

I removed the shark codecs and still got the same error.  I also got the same error using the other wtv profile but it of course took much l ok nger to process.  I shiuld also note that I have the shark codecs on my windows 7 box where I didnt have the problem.

Coordinator
Jan 30 at 1:36 AM

Can anyone else confirm if the WTV files created by MCEBuddy don't play on Win8?

Jan 30 at 11:24 AM

 

I am having the same trouble. WTV unprocessed on a 64bit win8 pro machine.

I am trying WTV processed program now.

Also archive does not work.

Using the latest beta 2.3.12 64bit

Coordinator
Jan 30 at 1:43 PM

I will need a log file to see the issue including the archive problem. I just tested it and it's working, might be a permission isssue

Jan 30 at 11:05 PM
<div dir="ltr">here is log file <div>thank you very much for your help<br clear="all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> Jack Duffy<br> <br> </div> </div>
Coordinator
Jan 31 at 12:58 AM
no log file..
Jan 31 at 1:12 AM
Edited Feb 17 at 1:57 PM
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Coordinator
Jan 31 at 1:42 AM
I think you should post your link on the website directly, I can't see anything here.
Coordinator
Feb 14 at 1:17 AM
Edited Feb 14 at 3:16 AM
Okay so folks who are having issues with playing back MCEBuddy created WTV files on 64 bit Windows (7 and 8). Thanks for Mark for this answer:

Open FFDShow 64bit Video Configuration from the Start Menu -> ffdshow (assuming you let MCEBuddy install FFDSHOW). Under MPEG-2 and MPEG2 in AVI set it codec to libavcodec.

It should solve your problem. (maybe a reboot is required).

Feb 14 at 2:04 AM
Hi - has there been any progress on this issue? I have Win 8 x64 and experiencing the same problem with WTV uncompressed. I've tried playing the file in Plex, WMC and Jriver Media Center. Plex gives me an error (file not found or something to that effect), WMC complains that codec isn't installed, and JRMC plays the audio of the file, but no video. In fact, it acts like its just an audio file (ie, doesn't launch the video screen that normally accompanies video files).

Thanks!
Coordinator
Feb 14 at 3:16 AM
I thought I just posted the solution above for WMC - I hope you've read it.
Feb 14 at 12:16 PM
I found these settings under Start menu -> ffdshow x64 -> Video decoder configuration x64 and in my case the only decoder set for all formats was libavcodec.
Feb 16 at 6:55 PM
Those who have fixed this issue, or have it working on windows 7 (as far as removing commercials and leaving it in WTV format), is the resulting video fully playable? Does the fast forward and rewind fully work on playback?
Feb 16 at 8:35 PM
I have Win 8 x64 and have the same issue that is described, but I didn't have the settings in FFDShow... under codecs was only listed MPEG2 and MPEG in AVI (I didn't have an MPEG-2 or MPEG2 in AVI option). Both my MPEG2 and MPEG in AVI were already listed as using the libavcodec.

Any other thoughts?
Coordinator
Feb 18 at 2:43 AM
It's working perfectly on a stock build of Windows 7 64bit with only FFDShow (MCEBuddy default install). If you have other codecs/software with codecs installed it may mess it up. On a stock build with FfDShow I've tested it working with MCE and WMP.
Feb 18 at 6:01 PM
Admittedly this isn't a "stock" build of Windows 8 x64 (i've been installing/uninstalling codecs to get them to work), but I can't get uncompressed WTV to work, even trying the above fix. Trying the normal (i guess compressed) WTV worked just fine.

I was using SAF6, but i uninstalled it before installing MCEbuddy. Any thoughts?
Feb 18 at 11:45 PM
OK so now I've gotten it to work in Windows Media Player but NOT Windows Media Player or VLC.
Feb 21 at 6:19 PM
I REALLY hate to beat a dead horse, but the above solution does NOT work on a clean install of Win8 x64 Pro. When I try to open the unprocessed file in Windows Media Center, WMC crashes.
Feb 21 at 6:32 PM
I have it working on Windows 8 64 bit using the WTV processed file with comskip ad removal. It took awhile but it works great now. I have tried unprocessed WTV and windows media center crashes.
Coordinator
Feb 21 at 9:06 PM
Can you post your working profile
Feb 22 at 2:36 AM
I think he's saying the unprocessed works, which is true for me too. The problem seems to be the video. When I change in the profile.config for Unprocessed WTV "order=copy,ffmpeg" to just "order=ffmpeg" it works just fine. It does some encoding and has deinterlace problems, but it plays.
Feb 22 at 3:05 PM
I'm having similar problems with TS files recorded using ArgusTV from HDHR tuners using ATSC. My Hauppauge Colossus files in ts containers work perfectly. The difference seems to be that the Colossus files start off in h.264 format and the HDHR files start off in mpg2 format. I can get the "bad" files to work using GraphStudio and building a graph, but MPC-HC plays them without Audio, VLC won't play them at all, WMP crashes with codec errors, and XBMC plays them with major stuttering.
Coordinator
Feb 22 at 3:28 PM
I did not get your point
Feb 22 at 5:20 PM
I had several points actually.
  1. It is not just the WTV container that is the issue.
  2. Maybe the issue is related to MPEG2 specifically
  3. The files I have with these problems are playable if you force the right filters, but something that handles almost everything that is thrown at it like VLC doesn't seem to handle them by default.
  4. The issue may also be interfering with the audio. By the way the stuttering in XBMC can be caused by difficulty playing audio so that may be all that is wrong in XBMC.
Coordinator
Feb 22 at 8:45 PM
What would be interesting to know is what combinations of the above work
Feb 22 at 9:52 PM
Would it be possible to just have MCEBuddy run comskip? I mean, is it necessary for there to be any remuxing or anything like that?
Feb 22 at 10:33 PM
Aren't there other ways to just run comskip? The only thing I'm trying to accomplish with it is actually removing the files from ts files. I'm experimenting now with actually transcoding into mkv files, but that is only for troubleshooting this particular issue.
Coordinator
Feb 27 at 5:49 PM
gewbert wrote:
Would it be possible to just have MCEBuddy run comskip? I mean, is it necessary for there to be any remuxing or anything like that?
Comskip and many programs don't work on WTV hence the remuxing is a necessary "evil". Again guys, MCEBuddy is not perfect but I've designed it to be very flexible, if it isn't working out of the box, spend some time to see how it works and play with it, create custom profiles, custom remuxing parameters etc. You'll find something that works for you.
Feb 27 at 8:00 PM
rboy1 wrote:
gewbert wrote:
Would it be possible to just have MCEBuddy run comskip? I mean, is it necessary for there to be any remuxing or anything like that?
Comskip and many programs don't work on WTV hence the remuxing is a necessary "evil". Again guys, MCEBuddy is not perfect but I've designed it to be very flexible, if it isn't working out of the box, spend some time to see how it works and play with it, create custom profiles, custom remuxing parameters etc. You'll find something that works for you.
I have the donator version of Comskip, and it does work on WTV files. Can I swap out the version MCEBuddy uses and have it not remux? If so, would I just replace the files in "C:\Program Files\MCEBuddy2x\comskip"?

While I know there are other alternatives, I really like the interface of MCEBuddy and would like to use it if possible. And I completely understand being flexible, I'm a tweaker and can never leave well enough alone :-). I appreciate all you do!
Coordinator
Feb 28 at 3:56 AM
gewbert wrote:
rboy1 wrote:
gewbert wrote:
Would it be possible to just have MCEBuddy run comskip? I mean, is it necessary for there to be any remuxing or anything like that?
Comskip and many programs don't work on WTV hence the remuxing is a necessary "evil". Again guys, MCEBuddy is not perfect but I've designed it to be very flexible, if it isn't working out of the box, spend some time to see how it works and play with it, create custom profiles, custom remuxing parameters etc. You'll find something that works for you.
I have the donator version of Comskip, and it does work on WTV files. Can I swap out the version MCEBuddy uses and have it not remux? If so, would I just replace the files in "C:\Program Files\MCEBuddy2x\comskip"?

While I know there are other alternatives, I really like the interface of MCEBuddy and would like to use it if possible. And I completely understand being flexible, I'm a tweaker and can never leave well enough alone :-). I appreciate all you do!
Heh heh - I know the feeling of the tweaker which is why MCEBuddy is still alive :)
However, I'm sad to say it isn't feasable with the current architecture since many other programs in between like ccextractor, avidemux, mencoder etc don't support WTV, so the evil remux is necessary.

However like I said it's a remux and not a recode (in most situations), you can use the donator version of Comskip to remux H264 WTV directly into H264 TS and work on that. So that's a tweak you can use to squeeze a little more without losing time/quailty. Refer to the discussion on H264 WTV for more details.
Feb 28 at 11:44 AM
Darn. Oh well, thanks for all the help! Maybe this will be one of those bugs that will just go away with time! Thanks for all the help!!!